New Trek TV Series In The Works!

122 thoughts on “New Trek TV Series In The Works!”

1. Being a melodramatic neocon much? Either watch the show, or don’t.

2. None of the shows really ‘tacked’ the issues until other shows had done them first, and then it was with a sledgehammer. That said, what was done in Into Darkness was timely and topical.

3. You do know that ‘Gene’ was an atheist, and that many of the things espoused on Star Trek and Star Trek-TNG were what would be considered ‘Cultural Marxism’ by you and most of the Faux Noise-watching neocons, right? Better be sure you know what your watching instead of believing that everything has to fit your bigoted neocon Tea Bagger worldview.

4. Bullshit-it’s never really shifted, it’s been stable all of these years, people like you have been brainwashed (if I can use the term) by years of Faux Noise and neocon talk radio, so you believe that anything not in sync with your viewpoints is ‘liberal’ and ‘Marxist’.

5. Yes I did know that, and I’m also an Atheist. Nothing about Star Trek was ‘Cultural Marxism’, but considering your history I’m not surprised you are incapable of comprehending that fact.nnI’m not a republican, I have no involvement in the tea party, and I hate fox news. I also voted for Obama twice.nnTry again, mouth-breather.

6. Pick up a history book, it’s all true and the only brainwashed person here is you.

7. What I admire most about this age is the reluctance to demonize one’s cultural foes just because it may help you “win” an argument. Really, the Era of Good Feelings, an age of restraint. We can all rejoice. .nnPS: Did you watch that South Park episode yet? You know, the one I told you about that got you all butthurt and angsty and started your current ad hominem attack campaign against me?

8. I almost hate to say this but maybe it’s time to bring back Berman. Maybe being away from the franchise for over a decade will have given him some new perspective and creative juices to use.

9. Who cares about “popular”? This is Star Trek! Also, I would beg to differ that the prime universe is no longer popular; if it were no longer popular people wouldn’t still be watching it!

10. Said people are a small, aging, and dwindling fanbase-CBS has to replenish the fanbase for Star Trek with new ones. You all can’t keep on pulling this ‘it’s my sandbox’ bullshit, everybody else has to be a part of it, too. And that means revitalizing it with reboots occasionally, just like DC and Marvel do.

11. I’m 29 years old, I certainly don’t fit into your “small, aging, and dwindling” demographic. Next Gen was a “reboot”, it stayed within established continuity, and it was very successful. Sometimes it is possible to have things both ways; you can have a reboot which is faithful to what has come before without alienating either new or old fans. Not every reboot has to be “all-new, all-different” like Marvel is trying right now. By the way, what I’ve seen of the New 52 and All-New All-Different Marvel looks attrocious.

12. Young or old, you’re still part of a dwindling section of the fanbase, and CBS has to get younger people to watch Star Trek (you can’t go pulling the same old sandbox ploy.)

13. That fanbase is dwindling and aging, and has to be replenished with a younger fandom (which the new movies have furnished in spades.)

14. I agree. Still, if waiting for ep 1 and getting PhantomMenace didn’t cause riots, then only the casual desecration of fan favorite original characters will. Surely there’s no chance of that…I hope.

15. Not my intention to be rude here, Smithereens, but when you respond to an honest opinion with what appears to be a link to (at best) some factual information, or maybe a survey, I just don’t know where to begin. “Reasons” and “enjoyment” are not subject to any data you may have discovered or compiled. Feel free to make a point, but I can’t see why I’d click on that link unless it’s some kind of joke.

16. Many good points. Lots of misses in those early episodes, but they did have a cool vibe at times. I’d slant the best years of TNG a little later, but definitely in the middle of the series. Early favorites like “Time Squared” and “Q Who” gave way to evolving tales before it got a bit meandering. The last season is fun, for example, but every show is either a relative or a bonkers idea! nnAs for the conflict concept, although I totally agree with your examples, my point is a bit more specific. Firstly, no specific or tangible conflict exists between any main characters for more than a fraction of a single episode. Same deal with TNG. Sure, Bones is exasperated with Spock’s logic on a semi regular basis, but that’s not exactly the same as a Bajoran terrorist turned officer interacting with Cardassians, for instance. Early in the run of DS9 was a great episode called “Hippocratic Oath”, and at the end of it two human, Starfleet FRIENDS were emotionally distant and lacking any comfortable resolution. It was a wonderfully human moment, and it would have never happened on Star Trek before DS9.nnThe most specific example of the issue comes from Gene’s own quotes though. He spoke of our species having not only conquered global concerns of poverty and war, but basic human weaknesses like jealousy and greed. This is a lovely thought, but I find it much easier to believe in warp drive. By the time our race has overcome its fundamental weaknesses, we will by definition and necessity, no longer be humans. It won’t be in a few hundred years, I’m afraid… Anyway, good thoughts.

17. You said “many who enjoy all the shows like DS9 best”. The data proves you wrong. You were attempting to give weight to your opinion with an appeal to the idea that many share it. They do not.

18. Fair enough. Always a pleasure to read a knowledgeable fan post. Cheers.

19. Thank you, Matineer. It is really cool to find a good conversation with a smart Trekkie. I raise my blood wine to you!

20. Funny, funny stuff, smithereens. Where to begin? That quote of mine you keep throwing back at me is quite simply a factual statement since “many who enjoy all the shows like DS9 best.” If your survey indicates that more people who like all of them prefer something else, or even that MOST or ALMOST ALL people who like all of them prefer something else, it doesn’t change the basic truth of my statement. Part of your hang up is perhaps the relative use of the word “many.” How many is many? I don’t know. Hundreds of thousands, maybe. Just a guess. I’d call that “many” even if it is a vast minority. nnAs for giving weight to my opinion with an appeal to the idea that many share it, well firstly of course, many do share it. Secondly, it was more the opposite which I intended: giving credit to the many who share my opinion for being aware of DS9’s excellence. If I were trying to make the point that the more people who like something the better it is, I wouldn’t be championing the under appreciated black sheep of Star Trek. My point is that this great show is often loved by fans with a broad spectrum of Trek tastes, and the implication of that is a somewhat comprehensive understanding of its value in the context of the franchise. It’s really not a point you can argue against very well, since it’s obviously a fact. You might say that MORE people prefer TNG, and the I’d have to suppose you are right. However, I’m not sure, since I don’t read surveys… Anyway, you seem more hostile and dismissive than conversational and good natured, so this probably didn’t set you straight on your reading of my post.

21. Given how much time you have spent explaining and then re-explaining your invalidated opinion, I think it might be you who has the “hang-up”.

22. Why do you hate free speech? Liberal thug.

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